tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2257114463060999037.post2687924944925380669..comments2023-10-26T05:56:21.000-04:00Comments on Fire And Grace - David Johndrow: Gays, God and GraceDavid-FireAndGracehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13540931140500045826noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2257114463060999037.post-12193238063258236832010-12-09T18:40:47.800-05:002010-12-09T18:40:47.800-05:00@Su - Yes lots of other things to talk about. In f...@Su - Yes lots of other things to talk about. In fact so much I have 3 books going!<br /><br />@JCC - a pleasure!<br /><br />@faceoflions - thanks. Making a lot of noise and focusing on culture are not the best ways to make a point. Thanks for reading.<br /><br />@Andrea - When Christians gt to the core issues, every one struggle with something. Thanks, reading.<br /><br />@Tonjia - yes, I have seen the damage first hand. And I agree, there is so much it is unlikely that one cold be completely healed in a lifetime, but that is the business that Jesus is in.<br /><br />@Charlie - in this world there is sin. There is hate, and there is plenty of evil. But I can change that by loving the unlovable. ;o)<br /><br />@Renae - thanks for reading along. Love to you and yours!Davidhttp://www.fireandgrace.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2257114463060999037.post-80881564291625529932010-12-08T07:38:08.697-05:002010-12-08T07:38:08.697-05:00Very balanced David. Too many look past their own ...Very balanced David. Too many look past their own sins of lust and adultery and focus on someone who is gay, but as you said, sin is sin, no matter what sin it is. When we come to Christ in heartfelt repentance and begin to be changed by the washing of the water of the Word, then we begin to see the holiness of the Father being worked out in our lives and sin will be conquered on a daily basis. <br /><br />Thank you again. It is important to love all sinners and allow God's love to be poured out through us so they may come to know Christ<br /><br />RenaeRenaehttp://www.bringinghealing.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2257114463060999037.post-74641974652819918862010-12-07T19:30:27.832-05:002010-12-07T19:30:27.832-05:00fantastic post! I knew it was great when you began...fantastic post! I knew it was great when you began with we are to welcome people not discount them. I loved your point that no one is perfected, even if they have radical salvation experiences. <br /><br />I'm sorry Westboro came to your town and broke plenty of things that need metaphorical repair. Hopefully non-Christians see them for the ridiculousness they are and can separate them from a person who has encountered Jesus' peace and grace.Charlie's Church of Christhttp://charlieschurchofchrist.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2257114463060999037.post-24363884482220059612010-12-07T07:44:02.796-05:002010-12-07T07:44:02.796-05:00I have had the privilege and honor, in my life, of...I have had the privilege and honor, in my life, of becoming good friends with some of gods most damaged children, who are homosexual.<br /><br />Despite everything you have heard or think you know, and despite many public outcries to the contrary, I have never met a gay person who was not sexually assaulted by a trusted family member in infancy or early youth, typically, in the name of, and by the authority of god himself.<br /><br />That is the empiricle evidence, which I have seen, and I know to be the absolute truth of the matter. <br /><br />They did not choose to be homosexual any more than they chose to be sexually molested by trusted adults at the age of 2 or 3.<br /><br />Of all of gods children, they are the most damaged, the most lost, and the most forsaken. We keep blaming and crucifying the victim, so we don't have to look at the crime. <br /><br />These are those for whom Jesus came. These are the least of his. I do not know if that kind of damage can be repaired in this lifetime, for most of them.Tonjia Rolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06426298295977858377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2257114463060999037.post-38472420266930625652010-12-06T16:34:07.976-05:002010-12-06T16:34:07.976-05:00I appreciate anyone who opens the door to honest c...I appreciate anyone who opens the door to honest communication about homosexuality. I wish it were preached more from the pulpit.<br /><br />In any average congregation, there are Christians who are addicted to pornography, gambling, overeating, drugs & alcohol, and more. There are divorce and infidelity, ungratefulness, dishonor, and the list goes on. <br /><br />I can't possibly imagine that no one struggles with same sex attraction. I feel sorry for the person to whom this is a problem, because where can they go for help without condemnation (even if they haven't acted on it).<br /><br />No one was ever shamed into the kingdom. Why can't we simply bring people into the kingdom through kindness, which leads to repentance?<br /><br />Thanks for the post.Andreanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2257114463060999037.post-10065448855247359782010-12-06T13:16:14.521-05:002010-12-06T13:16:14.521-05:00Gracious and biblical.
In other words, a very ra...Gracious and biblical. <br /><br />In other words, a very rare blog post about homosexuality.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />DaveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2257114463060999037.post-24816417405624422362010-12-06T08:39:20.545-05:002010-12-06T08:39:20.545-05:00David - Thanks for the shoutout.
And yes, this is...David - Thanks for the shoutout.<br /><br />And yes, this is a tough topic.<br /><br />nicodemusatnite.blogspot.comCharlie Changhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15893038509880330735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2257114463060999037.post-9734353605596125942010-12-06T08:26:30.138-05:002010-12-06T08:26:30.138-05:00Well said! Count me in the "surely there are ...Well said! Count me in the "surely there are other things to talk about" group. If we gave loving our neighbour and feeding the poor the same attention that we collectively give to abortion and homosexuality... I'm sure you can see where this rant is going. :)<br /><br />Being perfected in Christ is a process. We're all on the road.Suhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11862479925124552922noreply@blogger.com